Hosts William Dettloff and Eric Raskin break major news about the end of The Ring magazine as we know it, then analyze such topics as Oscar De La Hoya coming clean about his lingerie pictorial, Mayweather vs. Mayweather on HBO's 24/7, Mayweather vs. Ortiz in the ring, and much more.
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I was hoping it was a joke. I’m utterly heartbroken. Like you Bill, I’ve been reading The Ring since I was a kid. I even remember your columns when the site was called thering-online.com. I’ve been a subscriber for years and I even own some from the 70’s and 80’s that my dad collected. I might be a young dude, but I know quality ethical boxing writing and journalism when i see it (or read it). And to know that this publication is no more, it’s heartbreaking. Bill and Eric, you guys were two of the most knowledgeable and honest writers on staff. Nigel is brilliant and a definite hall of famer, and I feel terrible for him and the rest of the editorial staff.
On another note, the show was hilarious. Loved you how guys ripped on these racist Nazi pedophile doctors … Classic!
I just renewed my subscrip[tion,the thing is i always read The Ring with a totally open mind and just absorbed it all,now i’ll still read it but with kind of a suspicious mind,thinking what ulterior motives lies behind what i’m reading,it will take away from the experience.
Another fantastic podcast. I was cracking up all the way through, especially at the “racist, nazi, pedophile doctors.” I wholeheartedly agree with the argument that Boxing is a positive outlet for kids, it has always been for me even as a pretty well taken care of middle class kid who simply has had anger and interpersonal issues. Its a real shame as a Ring subscriber to see them smoke out the mag but I’m hopeful they might be able to keep some integrity because it’s historical standing has helped recently in giving a nice official alternative to the ABC organizations and their Super Regular Diamond Interim Emeritus Fecarbox Championships. I’m subscribed through to next spring so I’ll at least give it a shot through the remainder. I also hope that Eric can get through his “hardscrabble” situation so he doesn’t have to hypothetically sell out to Golden Boy and wind up having to work alongside your guys’ BFF, Doug Fischer. It will be particularly interesting to see if Ring ratings-advocate Max Kellerman pulls back on their endorsements in how he himself showcases his “state of the division” segments. Speaking of 24/7, I love that show, it’s always best when you have animated guys like Mayweather on it showing out, and it’s a major reason for me rooting for Brandon Rios in every fight he has now, because he’d be 24/7 gold.
Though it was sad news, I was really disappointed there were no jokes about Nigel having his job taken by a Mexican immigrant. Then again, we got plenty of good Oscar material, so I shouldn’t complain. As for The RIng, I’m not as pessimistic about its direction in terms of content and objectivity. The only thing I’m truly terrified about is the quality of the writing. If the magazine looks anything like the website, it will fold.
Though The Ring as we know it is no more, life will stay the same. Kids will continue drowning in swimming pools, gymnasts will continue breaking their necks, and pricy pediatricians who serve no children from low-income families will continue to tell them what sports they should or shouldn’t play. Meanwhile, the great medical sports mystery of our time will continue to go unanswered: why do so many people who play football in high school turn out to be deadbeats?
The news concerning The Ring was indeed sad. The magazine was everything the website wasn’t - quality articles and journalistic integrety.
I noticed over the last year or so that the website was sofeting their (and The Ring’s) stance towards the alphabet bodies. Instead of cutting through the bullshit like Collins and his best writers always have done, Fisher and Rosenthal started labeling them “major titles” and so forth.
Now, if that’s not a bad sign of “promotional influence”, then what is.
I expect The Ring’s long standing policy of discrediting the sanctioning bodies will now get even softer with Fisher and Rosenthal at the wheel. If that proves the case, combined with the very average writing of the current group at the website, then The Ring magazine will become as worthless as the next crapy website or cheap boxing magazine.
I for one (of many) will not be renewing my subscription.
Not a subscriber to Ring but I’m bummed for Joe and Nigel. I didn’t realize that Oscar fessed up about the pictures (as if anyone really had any doubt). Don’t know if Steve Farhood is available but I think he would be great in studio at ESPN - Steve’s the best.
THAT, was the worst goddamn fight I’ve seen in years.I love boxing, every aspect of it is an intriguing part of the human dynamic but that fight i just watched was disgusting. victor ortiz let mayweather win and Cortez let it happen. That was THE most thrown fight I’ve ever seen. I’m literally sick to my stomach right now.After a fight like that I don’t think I can have faith in boxing anymore, and that’s sad because regardless of what people in the community say the sport is dying but things like this kill it faster. I’m disgusted, not only by the way the media is reacting to it but by boxing as a whole. That as an injustice to the integrity of a sport that has existed for centuries. You both know it and you believe in your ability to be honest. That match was a travesty.